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  • or Lady Bird came here in '60. He'd take that vice presidency. As I recall. Do you know for sure LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library
  • Wilson; Lady Bird; LBJ as VP; LBJ and the Kennedy’s; Medicare Bill; LBJ as President; Johnson treatment; Alabama integration problems; evaluation of LBJ; Vietnam; ranking the presidents; Coolidge anecdote; Congress in the 1920s; National Defense Education
  • this thing was done or failed. In the matter of the President's wedding, he called me up one Saturday morning, about 8 o'clock from Texarkana, and said that he and Lady Bird wanted to be married in St. Mark's Episcopal Church at LBJ Presidential Library
  • ) Lady Bird Johnson spent a great deal of her time trying to understand her husband and trying to support his ideas and ambitions, rather than trying to dictate her own ideas and ambitions. She looked for evidence each day to support what he was trying
  • Vietnam policy; post-presidency contacts and work with LBJ and Lady Bird Johnson and LBJ State Park; Hubert Humphrey's 1968 Texas campaign; LBJ's role in politics in post-presidency period
  • McPherson; George Reedy; Lee White; LBJ as VP under JFK; John Connally; Preston Smith; Bobby Baker; Lady Bird Special, 1964; NSC 1965; escalation in Vietnam; Tonkin Gulf Resolution; dissenting group in the White House; John Stennis; LBJ's decision not to run
  • in that. Yes. What was your role in that? Johnson. I am very fond of Lady Bird In the first place, I think she is a person of great charm, and [she has] an exquisite sense of words and the best judgment about human affairs that I can think of. judge. She
  • educated really by him, having known our father He was extremely strict. day a different language at the table. He insisted that we speak every I went to a convent called the Convent of the Birds; it was called Les Oiseaux, which sounds funny in English
  • factotum. was in the Eisenhower years. This I was in Washington for a meeting of the American Society of Newspaper Editors, and at some raucous late-night party I ran into Lyndon and Lady Bird. We were standing around talking and drinking--it was very
  • Biographical information; first meeting with LBJ; Democratic political campaigns leading to 1956 Convention; Central High School integration; 1960 Democratic Convention and Kennedy-Johnson nomination; relations with LBJ as VP; ghost writing for Lady
  • to Lady Bird's and his thirtietb anniversary, which fell a few days after the 1964 election. very good party. It wasn't a. I remember I sat between Mrs. Justice [Tom] Clark and Mrs. Scooter Hiller, which is not my ideal seat at table. About the only
  • there practically living with Lady Bird during that time, and I asked Elizabeth how did an experienced man like Lyndon get trapped into that war. The only answer I got out of El izabeth was, "I think I ought to ask Lady Bird about that." Of course, George Ball
  • trust. They treated him as a usurper. Now I understand that the Honorable--wait a minute now, I'm getting old--who's the press secretary to-­ F: [Pierre] Salinger. C: No, the press secretary to Lady Bird. F: Oh. Liz Carpenter. C: Liz's book
  • . And he's a Bill White always thought we two would White arranged a real small dinner party early in the Kennedy Administration. It was Bill and his wife, my wife and myself, Jim Rowe and Lady Bird and the Vice President. The whole purpose
  • really right or wrong in your own heart. But one night, a long time after the election, I'm going to be in bed and I'm going to turn over to Lady Bird and say, 'Bird, you know those folks dovm in New Orleans. their judgment.'" at that point. (Laughter
  • finished the speech, Lady Bird called me on the telephone. And Lady Bird says to me, "Mr. Dubinsky, Lyndon told me what you did for him today. He was happy, and so I am happy, and I want to congratulate you and express our appreciation for the way you
  • for a visit, did you. G: Only on his way back from the Southeast Asia theater. F: Someone who'd like to go very much is Lady Bird, incidentally. She's always asking questions about it. G: Yes. F: Very intrigued. You worked with Johnson some on clean
  • . discussion took place. When I came into the Biltmore Hotel, he was in his bathrobe; Lady Bird was in her bathrobe. he was there. G: John was fully dressed, and Walter was there, and a couple of others. I was under the impression that John Connally
  • that station at the tim.e that Lady Bird bought it would have seen it grow fantastically in value just because of the rate of growth of the industry. have no direct knowledge of it. But I myself It was just in the nature of the industry that people who got
  • House dinners? Was this used? D: Yes. All the state dinners would go from the State Department; State prepared them. They'd go from the State Department to the social secre- tary of the White House and the First Lady like for entertainment. They'd
  • of White House tours; state dinners; value of using the Sequoia; receptions and stag dinners for Congress at the White House; Lady Bird; Air Force One travel; appointments and congressional recommendations; LBJ's persuasive powers; Everett Dirksen; dealings
  • President, the new President, sworn in-F: Or to accompany a new president. R: --and even less that we were going to fly back on the plane with the dead President, the new President, Jackie, and Lady Bird, and most of their staffs. F: Let's slow up just
  • President? M: Then I went by to pay my respects to the Johnsons--Majority Leader Johnson. I saw him, and Lady Bird was most gracious and everything. At that point, it was only an hour or so before the decision was announced, I would have bet my car
  • they stopped the elevator and he sa i d, I'll see you later." up to Lady Bird's bedroom and he waited for her. And he carried her She appreciated that. Then that night at the state dinner he told a joke about, something about, well maybe Lady Bird would run
  • me that the first day of school. M: You got an A.B. degree from Harvard-- P: It reminds me of Lady Bird Johnson. Someone asked her where she got the name of Lady Bird and she described that. She said, "S ome people call me Claudia, but when
  • to them, but I didn't conduct them. C: There is an incident that George told me that I think should be in the historical record on Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson, that I know only from George, but George was there first hand. the one to tell it. And I'd
  • always just sort of come up. For example, they tell a story on the President which I believe and which illustrates what I'm talking about. They say there's a -- I don't know her name -- a lady down in Johnson City, I guess, or Stonewall. She and her
  • in Vietnamese regime; Westmoreland; Abrams; personnel in Vietnam; Clark Clifford; LBJ’s acceptance of Locke’s race for Governor of Texas – no aid from LBJ; 3/31 announcement; estimation of LBJ; Texas political structure; Lady Bird; political nature of LBJ.
  • in Washington. We interview these guys--I say ''We,'' Commander Latimer specifically interviews these gents, and he coordinates this with Bess Abell's office. some place between thirty-five and forty. It fluctuates. marriage rate among these birds is pretty
  • help him in Texas. Maybe I can help some, but he can help himself, Lady Bird can help him, and then Muriel can help him." Oh, and then he said, "Congressman Jim Wright." man Jim Wright very lavishly. Vice President. And he praised Congress- He
  • and Lady Bird made this country--what it's been I suppose since Theodore Roosevelt--conservation conscious, but they put it on a plane I think from which there is no retreat now. Did you work with that story yourself? H: Yes. I never went out on any
  • as a President; Secretary Udall; Lady Bird’s effort to make America conservation conscious; assessment of history’s judgment of LBJ’s presidency; LBJ’s interest in the space program.
  • ; I've forgotten exactly what the date was, but Lady Bird owned a Convair airplane which crashed and the two pilots were killed . 1960 . It seems to me it was in the fall of And he was very much concerned about that . He was concerned about
  • be possible to know a more charming, wonderful in every sense of the word, person than Lady Bird Johnson . I just think she is one of the great women I've ever been privileged to know . Her role in the government, I would say, is intangible, but very, very
  • , that he really did talk this frequently about getting out, quitting, and so on, and it was kind of the same thing that Stevenson did so often? A: I don't know how to weigh the story about Lady Bird having made him promise four years before. Rusk
  • at least could express herself on some of those things in which local people were interested. coordination on these trips. So we had a little extemporaneous As a matter of fact I probably was with Lady Bird on that trip and saw more of her than I have
  • Biographical information; first association with LBJ; LBJ-Sam Rayburn relationship; 1960 convention; LBJ’s acceptance of VP nomination; Lady Bird campaigning in North Carolina; civil rights legislation; religious issue; Senate luncheon; LBJ’s trips
  • beyond our comprehension and it still goes on even though that country now has had a great deal of economic recovery. But one day I remember in particular, the day we went to Agra to visit the Taj Mahal, which was Lyndon and Lady Bird's wedding
  • Administration at all on any of this conservation? H: No. F: H: F: Not with Lady Bird? No. Mrs. Hoffman did. I didn't. You urged in '68 the doubling of aid from the rich nations. What kind of reception did you get to. that? I don't know about aid generally
  • have much use for him, and he wound up as Lady Bird's clerk writing memos on hm'l the Library should function and that sort of thing. VJhen I say Johnson destroyed him I don't really mean there was any deliberate attempt. I don't think Johnson really
  • the Potomac on the Presidential yacht. But those were some of our warmest moments with Lady Bird and the President and some of the most refreshing, some of the most enduring-F: Did you talk policy, or was it personal, or--? M: Oh, a lot of it was kind
  • to get out of the Presidency in order to live. I think that he--at least he made an occasion to say to me, as did Lady Bird, on more than one instance that they really believed he wouldn't live through a second term, and that he did love his family
  • House press apparatus; Dean Acheson; Dean Rusk; Senator Aiken; Congressman Moss; Mr. Rooney; Mr. Katzenbach; Eugene Rostow; the press; Joe Alsop; Vietnam coverage; mail; lag time in making records available; Douglas Cater; transition; Lady Bird; trip